Grima, Chief Counselor (5R51)

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Grima, Chief Counselor (5R51) is a Isengard Minion from the Battle of Helm's Deep set.

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Collection Info Title Gríma Subtitle Chief Counselor Unique Yes Collectible Yes Set 5 - Battle of Helm's Deep Rarity R - Rare Card Number 51 Language EN - English Revision 0

Gameplay Info Playable Yes Culture Isengard Side Shadow Card Type Minion Race Man Twilight Cost 2 Strength 4 Vitality 3 Site Number 3 Game Text Maneuver: Spot 4 Free Peoples cultures and exert Gríma to return an unbound companion, and all cards on him or her, to their owners’ hands. Lore “‘I care for you and yours as best I may.... Let others deal with these irksome guests.'”

Translations DE - German Game Text Manöver: Entdecke 4 Kulturen der Freien Völker und strenge Gríma an, um einen nicht-verbundenen Gefährten und alle Karten darauf auf die Hand ihrer Besitzer zurückzuschicken. Lore "Ich sorge für Euch und die Euren, so gut ich kann... Überlasst es anderen, sich mit diesen lästigen Gästen zu befassen.“ ES - Spanish Game Text Maniobra: Avista 4 culturas de Gentes Libres y esfuerza a Gríma para devolver un compañero no-vinculado, y todas las cartas en él o ella, a las mano de sus propietarios. Lore “Me preocupo por vos y por los vuestros tanto como puedo...Dejad que otros se ocupen de estos huéspedes inoportunos.” FR - French Card Name Grima, Conseiller en Chef Game Text Manœuvre : Désignez 4 cultures des Peuples Libres et affaiblissez Grima pour retourner un compagnon dissocié et toutes les cartes sur celui-ci dans la main de leur propriétaire. Lore « “Je me soucie de vous et des vôtres du mieux que je le puis... Laissez à d'autres le soin de disposer de ces hôtes importuns.” » IT - Italian Game Text Manovra: Avvista 4 culture dei Popoli Liberi e sforza Gríma per far riprendere in mano ai possessori un compagno Non Legato e tutte le carte da lui portate. Lore “‘Io mi prendo cura di te e dei tuoi averi, come meglio posso... Lascia che altri si occupino di questi fastidiosi ospiti.'”

Technical Info Wiki Base Card ID LOTR-EN05S051.0 TLHH ID LOTR05051 GEMP ID 5_51 LOTRO Hex ID 63 B7 C4 04 LOTRO Image ID 05_051

Strategy

Grima, Chief Counselor is a splash minion, often used as a counter to multi-cultural decks. Although multi-cultural fellowships are not inherently overpowered, there are some combos players can use that make such fellowships very difficult to beat. The effect of his ability is fairly similar to Wormtongue; he returns cards to hand, which greatly restricts card flow and makes more twilight the subsequent turn. However, a major advantage of this Grima is his ability to return up to 2 companions to hand, which often leads to a RB overwhelm unless the Fellowship is incredibly large. Note that when you are spotting 4 cultures you need only spot a card of that culture, such as a condition or ally - you don't necessarily have to spot companions of 4 cultures. This can often be used to your advantage; if your opponent has 4 cultures and you can return a companion to hand, but still spot a card of that companion's culture, you can then return another companion to hand. This Grima is particularly effective in The Two Towers because the opponent will always have the [shire] culture, even though Frodo is often the only hobbit. In subsequent sets, alternate Ring-Bearers often allow players to ensure their fellowship is at most 3 cultures. The counters to deal with Wormtongue are all effective against Chief Counselor, but often the easiest solution is not to use 4 cultures, as it's not really necessary in most decks. The exception to this is the Three Hunters + Frodo, but this is only a problem in The Two Towers, since thereafter you can use alternate Ring-Bearers.

Strengths and Weaknesses

Strong Versus...

• Multi-Cultural/Multi-Racial Fellowships
• Small Fellowships
• Gandalf, FotS
• The Nine Walkers
• Fellowships with splashed cards, such as Elrond, HtGG

Weak Versus...

• Maneuver Wounding and card discard - see Grima, Wormtongue

Alternate Personas

Portrait	Name	Game Text
	Gríma, Son of Galmod (4C153)	Each unbound companion (or ally) bearing a Shadow condition is strength -1.
	Gríma, Wormtongue (4R154)	Maneuver: Exert Gríma and spot an unbound companion bearing 3 or more cards to return each Free Peoples card that companion bears to its owner’s hand.
	Gríma, Betrayer of Rohan (12R68)	Lurker. (Skirmishes involving lurker minions must be resolved after any others.) Each time a companion loses a skirmish involving a minion, you may exert Gríma to exert a companion.
	Gríma, Footman of Saruman (13U92)	Lurker. (Skirmishes involving lurker minions must be resolved after any others.) Each time a Free Peoples character is killed, you may spot another minion to exert each companion.
	Gríma, Witless Worm (18R67)	Regroup: Exert Gríma to add . Regroup: Remove a token to add . Regroup: Remove to exert an unbound companion.
	Gríma, Servant of Another Master (19P16)	When you play Gríma, you may remove to exert an unbound companion. That companion cannot use special abilities until the regroup phase. Assignment: Exert Gríma to assign him to an unbound companion. That companion may exert to prevent this. ​